Barack Obama and His Opposition to the BAIPA
I have had this topic on my heart for quite some time...but since this blog is sort of my "happy place", where I try to keep away from things like this (or anything that might cause controversy) I haven't done it as of yet. I don't like getting into negative things here, but this is a topic that can't be ignored.
If you support Obama, you can choose to read this post or to ignore it.
*Note: there is sensitive information in this post. I know some of you read this blog with your children so if you don't want your children to read it, you can decide whether or not to make sure they're gone before reading.
In 1999, a nurse named Jill Stanek was working at "Christ Hospital", a hospital which she had previously assumed would never be performing abortions, due to their use of the name "Christ".
She was sadly wrong. In fact, it was worse than she ever would have imagined. She found out later that babies were being induced prematurely to birth, then, if they survived, were being left , alone, in a soiled utility room to die.
She found this out for herself after a 21-22 week baby who had just been aborted alive (for the crime of having Down's Syndrome) was being taken back to the soiled utility room. His parents didn't want to hold him, and the nurse carrying him back didn't have time to hold him.
Jill couldn't bear the thought of this little baby dying alone, and since there was nothing else she could do to help the baby, she rocked and cradled the baby for 45 minutes, as the child struggled for life and finally died.
This was a life changing moment for Jill. From that moment on, she struggled and fought to protect the lives of these little ones (this was not limited to the Christ Hospital...it was later found that various hospitals across the nation were also participating in this practice)!
You can watch this video of Jill being interviewed on the O'Reilly Factor, shortly after this experience happened:
You can also watch a video which explains this further, with Jill's own testimony, and you will see how this ties in with Obama:
In case you can't view the video, I'll try to explain. Because of Jill's experience, she was asked to testify on a national level, before a US House committee, and on different state committees about this barbaric practice.
These babies, being forced to be prematurely born, could live for as long as a few minutes, and sometimes, for hours. At least one of these babies lived for 8 hours after the abortion, and was never given any help whatsoever as it struggled for it's life. This is a US Citizen we are talking about here. Even those who call themselves pro-choice should absolutely be horrified that this was happening!
Barack Obama, after hearing about this practice at the Illinois State Senate committee, was absolutely unmoved when he heard the story, and voted <i>against</i> the Born Alive Infants Protection Act, which would have prevented this atrocious practice from happening.
Obama's justification for voting against the BAIPA? He said that he felt it was worded in such a way that it would undermine Roe vs. Wade.
As a state senator, he claimed that he voted against the Illinois bill for the reason that the federal "neutrality clause" was not included. He said that for this reason, he could not support the Illinois bill.
Obama was boldly lying through his teeth, because, as you can find the documentation to prove, Obama was actually part of the committee that added this "neutrality clause" to the Illinois bill...and in fact, he was chairman of that committee, when he voted against the bill in 2003! So the "neutrality clause" he claims was not there, was there, by his own doing, and he STILL voted against it!
Not only did Obama have the audacity to lie about this, he also had the audacity to call the National Right to Life Committee "liars" for saying this about him. Even though they had the documentation to prove he was the liar!
In response to Obama's slanderous accusation, the National Right to Life Committee has issued a response (written by the director, Douglas Johnson), which says:
"Since 2004, Obama has been betting that the mainstream news media will lack the interest and attention span required to get a clear picture of his actual record regarding infants who are born alive during abortions, and so far that mostly has worked for him.
In his short interview with David Brody, Obama tripled his bet on that proposition by calling us liars. He also relied on diversionary verbal smokescreens, but without directly addressing the newly discovered 2003 documentation that proves the falsity of his account.
We now challenge Obama to either declare the two 2003 legislative documents to be forgeries and call for an official investigation, or else apologize for his four years of misrepresentation on the issue of babies who are born alive during abortions - and for calling us liars. "
It breaks my heart to imagine a man who is pro-abortion to the extent that he blatantly supports infanticide becoming president of our great country.
You can keep updated on this topic every day by going to JillStanek.com.
If you support Obama, you can choose to read this post or to ignore it.
*Note: there is sensitive information in this post. I know some of you read this blog with your children so if you don't want your children to read it, you can decide whether or not to make sure they're gone before reading.
In 1999, a nurse named Jill Stanek was working at "Christ Hospital", a hospital which she had previously assumed would never be performing abortions, due to their use of the name "Christ".
She was sadly wrong. In fact, it was worse than she ever would have imagined. She found out later that babies were being induced prematurely to birth, then, if they survived, were being left , alone, in a soiled utility room to die.
She found this out for herself after a 21-22 week baby who had just been aborted alive (for the crime of having Down's Syndrome) was being taken back to the soiled utility room. His parents didn't want to hold him, and the nurse carrying him back didn't have time to hold him.
Jill couldn't bear the thought of this little baby dying alone, and since there was nothing else she could do to help the baby, she rocked and cradled the baby for 45 minutes, as the child struggled for life and finally died.
This was a life changing moment for Jill. From that moment on, she struggled and fought to protect the lives of these little ones (this was not limited to the Christ Hospital...it was later found that various hospitals across the nation were also participating in this practice)!
You can watch this video of Jill being interviewed on the O'Reilly Factor, shortly after this experience happened:
You can also watch a video which explains this further, with Jill's own testimony, and you will see how this ties in with Obama:
In case you can't view the video, I'll try to explain. Because of Jill's experience, she was asked to testify on a national level, before a US House committee, and on different state committees about this barbaric practice.
These babies, being forced to be prematurely born, could live for as long as a few minutes, and sometimes, for hours. At least one of these babies lived for 8 hours after the abortion, and was never given any help whatsoever as it struggled for it's life. This is a US Citizen we are talking about here. Even those who call themselves pro-choice should absolutely be horrified that this was happening!
Barack Obama, after hearing about this practice at the Illinois State Senate committee, was absolutely unmoved when he heard the story, and voted <i>against</i> the Born Alive Infants Protection Act, which would have prevented this atrocious practice from happening.
Obama's justification for voting against the BAIPA? He said that he felt it was worded in such a way that it would undermine Roe vs. Wade.
As a state senator, he claimed that he voted against the Illinois bill for the reason that the federal "neutrality clause" was not included. He said that for this reason, he could not support the Illinois bill.
Obama was boldly lying through his teeth, because, as you can find the documentation to prove, Obama was actually part of the committee that added this "neutrality clause" to the Illinois bill...and in fact, he was chairman of that committee, when he voted against the bill in 2003! So the "neutrality clause" he claims was not there, was there, by his own doing, and he STILL voted against it!
Not only did Obama have the audacity to lie about this, he also had the audacity to call the National Right to Life Committee "liars" for saying this about him. Even though they had the documentation to prove he was the liar!
In response to Obama's slanderous accusation, the National Right to Life Committee has issued a response (written by the director, Douglas Johnson), which says:
"Since 2004, Obama has been betting that the mainstream news media will lack the interest and attention span required to get a clear picture of his actual record regarding infants who are born alive during abortions, and so far that mostly has worked for him.
In his short interview with David Brody, Obama tripled his bet on that proposition by calling us liars. He also relied on diversionary verbal smokescreens, but without directly addressing the newly discovered 2003 documentation that proves the falsity of his account.
We now challenge Obama to either declare the two 2003 legislative documents to be forgeries and call for an official investigation, or else apologize for his four years of misrepresentation on the issue of babies who are born alive during abortions - and for calling us liars. "
It breaks my heart to imagine a man who is pro-abortion to the extent that he blatantly supports infanticide becoming president of our great country.
You can keep updated on this topic every day by going to JillStanek.com.
Bethany,
Thanks for having the courage to speak up about this. I hope when people hear about this they can look past the abortion issue and see that this man isn't protecting abortion; he is protecting infanticide.
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Well said. I cring each and every time that man comes on my T.V. I can't stand to look at him or hear his voice. What he supports is murder regardless if it happens when the baby is still in the mother's protective womb or after the baby is born. He is an accessory after the fact in my humble opinion and it scares me to think he could be put in charge of our country once founded and grounded in Judeo Christian teachings! I also hate to think that under him homemaking mothers will be punished and I fear more restrictions on our choice to home educate as his views seem in line with Clinton's on needing children put in preschools, daycares and public schools so that the village and not the parents to raise them. I need to go as my blood is boiling, as it does often when I hear about this man and his misaligned views. Thank you for putting it out there though for those who don't know. BTW: my six year has worked at the RTL booth at our fair with me for the past two years - we don't hide the fact that abortion is murder and we need to pray for it's end.
God bless,
Sarah
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I agree with you 100%...thank you for the volunteer work that you're doing for life!
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I am so glad that you actually put this out there. As horrible a thing as this is, alot of people are unaware of the goings on with this man. I cannot and will not support murder of an innocent, no matter the age. I applaud you for having the guts to say something, though it may offend some people.
My blood is also boiling. This is a tragedy that some people actually defend!! What has happened to this country?? God help us all.
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I dislike Obama for many reasons, but now I really dislike him.
Thank you for your courage in posting this, helping to educate us and your opinion.
I suspect that if it hadn't become so politically uncorrect to offend someone with what may be our opposing views we would find many more people agree with us more than we know.
Its equally sad that in this age, in America, having a pro-life, conservative view means you should keep it to yourself, because some people can't agree to disagree and still appreciate the other.
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Thanks for writing this!!! People please wake up!! It makes me so angry. It took my husband and I almost 6 years to conceive and that was with a lot of prayer, and help from Doctors. To let a baby just die for being "mentally ill" is beyond me. I would love my child no matter what!
Now days people want perfection and if their child is not perfect let's just abort it! How sad! and how shallow!
Thanks again and I just found your blog and love it lots!!
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Thank you, Sandy...I appreciate it!
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Thanks for sharing this Bethany. I recently became aware of Jill Stanek (I think through your blog) and I am shocked at what I've learned.
As a Canadian, I know I don't really get a say in who is elected, but for my own country's sake I sincerely hope it isn't Obama! Especially since our current Prime Minister (who I do like and voted for) is buddy buddy with the US. I thought it was bad enough that we have same sex marriage and abortions, but this is downright barbaric. Are these types of abortions being perfomed only in the US? I'm wondering if it's happening here in Canada too.
God bless Jill for speaking out...and for trying to help the innocent and defenseless ones. As someone who has lost a baby through miscarriage, it outrages me to think that there are thousands/millions of women who would kill their unborn baby (regardless how far along they are), when I didn't get to choose for my baby to live.
Sorry...didn't mean to write so much, but it makes me mad. At least all those poor little souls are safe in Heaven now. It's the only consolation for what is happening down here...
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Julie, I agree with your words, and I just wanted to let you know I checked with Jill to see if induced labor abortions are happening there too, and sadly, yes, they are happening in Canada as well.
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Thanks for checking...it makes me sad to know it's happening here too. I think it's time to do some research.
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Bethany, thanks for posting this. I will link to this post on my blog so any readers I have can come read this too. Both candidates scare me and this year, I may end up voting independent...It's so sad we've ended up with having to vote on the lesser of the evils.
If we haven't been thinking it already, now's the time to get your armor on and be ready for battle because the Lord's coming soon! I can't imagine HE can let us go on this way much longer. Ooh, Hallelujah, it gets me all excited to think of HIS return!
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I like to see others sharing this! I posted a few youtubes of him as well. He makes me sick!
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I appreciate that you posted this information. I agree with you.
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Great Blog! This is an amazing bit of info into the life we will all have to live after that man is voted President. I never had any opinion, but that is sick and a ridiculous thing to say, to vote against a cause such as BAIPA. You are very brave to post something like this which of course can cause a stir amongst many, as just about any subject anymore. Way to go. Stick to your opinions and you guns about the way you feel, and maybe someday, it'll be the MOTHER'S who show the world what is wrong and what is right, because as far as I can see, we are headed to a cliff with no sign of a turn around. Are we going to be pushed off? Or are we going to stand our grounds and fight for what we believe in? What is right, and the fight against the fear of offending someone else's feelings. Keep going girl! You are well on your way to backing back down off the cliff. If other's were just smart enough to follow your lead.
~hugs
Chrissy
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im glad i no longer live in the states, cause i would feel the need to vote (its compulsory here in australia so im used to it) and i just cant bring myself to support anyone. ESPECIALLY him. so many things ive heard and read about him supporting, or at least refusing not to support.. these live abortions, the so called 'partial birth abortion', its disgusting.
i thought once a baby was born and had taken a breath, it was considered alive and must be taken care of? i was sure thats how they decided if mothers were negligent leaving a newborn.. if it had breathed, leaving it was murder. if it hadnt, it was never alive. but if a doctor has forced it to be born early, doesnt matter how long it survives for as it was scheduled for death.
i would really like to punch that man and all those doctors...
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I'm writing in Ron Paul in Nov. I voted for Dr. Paul in the primaries. He's an OB of 30 yrs and strongly pro-life.
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Just to let you know anytime you vote indy or write in your vote your vote goes to the democrat.
At this point I'm not voting. I don't like Obama, and McCain is just too old and too set in his ways.
I'd rather not vote, then vote for someone i don't believe in. Unless of course McCain chooses a VP I like. IE: Former PA Gov Ridge. I worked under him in 1996.
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I am so thankful for all of the kind and supportive comments here. When I posted this, I actually expected a few people to respond angrily, or to remove their subscriptions. I was very fortunate to have you understanding women here, who care about the life of these babies and have the same goals as I do in that area. Thanks again, I truly appreciate it!
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It's an interesting story. I am very pro-choice, but I feel horrible about infants being allowed to live and then die alone. It's terrible. However, if Obama not supporting the BAIPA act means that Roe vs Wade is strengthened, then I am in favor of his stance.
And what may come of the fetuses aborted or left to die? Sure, some may grow up to be adults, but how many of them will be productive? How much will they cost the government to support a.k.a. how much will they really cost the taxpayers? Who will take care of them? It is such a complicated and sensitive issue.
I ultimately think that women should always have the right to choose. ALWAYS. If men were the ones who could become pregnant, you better believe that everything regarding their bodies would be a choice.
I guess I don't understand - most conservative people support abstinence only education, no birth control, then no abortion, then no welfare. That doesn't work at all. If we worked harder to teach realistic sex-education policies and made birth control available to all, I truly think we would see lower numbers of abortion and also less low income mothers on welfare milking our government.
I am absolutely pro-choice, but I do feel terrible about the hypothetical baby that would die after being born. However, when women can always choose what to do with their bodies, I think you would see more support for policies such as BAIPA, as long as the mother would have options, such as adoption.
I know that most of the readers of your blog are anti-Obama (I love him), and that's okay, but do any of you really think that any abortion policies are going to change under him? It's a Democratic Congress - nothing is changing. McCain couldn't change anything if he tried, were he elected (he won't be). I'm more concerned about the loss of adult lives in wars. Where's the injustice there? Obama seems pretty pro-life about that, while McCain can't wait to send more people in harm's way. Yes, I know he's a former midshipman, and I am fully aware of his stellar achievements, sacrifices, and pedigree.
I'm curious as to what others think.
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Cynthia, I have responded to your post here:
http://bethany.preciousinfants.com/2008/08/19/facts-and-fallacies.aspx#Comment
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"While I abhor abortion, I am "pro-life" in that I cannot in good conscience, not focus on voting in a candidate who will support it in the other areas of life that are essential.
His platform on supporting the poor is paramount"
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So its ok that he supports killing millions of innocent babies, live or in the womb, as long as he does something to help out a few poor people?
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"And he is also against the death penalty"
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Do you think a murderers life is more important than a baby's life?
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"under the Cross of Jesus Christ, we are all 'guilty' and require saving)."
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Dont babies require saving too?
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I heard Mr Obama on the radio stating that he believed women should have the choice to abort - he then went on to say there are far too many abortions in the United States! Didn't really make sense to me.
We are currently facing the potential decriminalisation of abortion right up to birth in my state in Australia. Please pray for our politicians!
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Bethany,
Won't be joining the discussion here but wanted to thank you for your honesty!! Nicely done, ladies!!
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Bethany, thanks for being brave enough to address this. I have thought about blogging about Obama, but haven't yet had the guts to.
What it comes down to for me is, neither candidate is particularly pleasing to me, but Obama will take this country to hell straighter and faster than McCain will. The abortion issue being a primary reason why. *How* can any human being be agreeable to allowing a living, breathing, born baby to die, even if they are pro-abortion?? How? Even "woman's choice" shouldn't extend to killing a born baby. It's just sickening.
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Thank you for being brave enough to write this. I am ardently pro-life. When I saw my first baby at 10 weeks in the womb, he had a head, a heartbeat, and arms and legs. He now a beautiful three year old. How was he not alive then.
When I get to heaven I do not want to look my precious Jesus in the face and say that I endorsed the murder of babies. This practice as the same as those in ancient times that sacrificed their children to Molech. This is despicable, and I will not put my vote next to anyone who will allow children to be torn limb from limb.
Thank you for bringing this forward.
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Bethany,
I was without a computer for the months of July and August, and am now just catching up on my blog reading. I just posted about Obama on my site the other day after going to Jill's site. I was a little nervous about posting something so controversial on my blog, but after reading yours, I'm glad I did. Have a great day.
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Anyone , still in doubt...watch this...
( harmless video, showing the fetus"gobbling" around
It's "teardrops" by massive attack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6iUBd2D38E
But it was a little hard the first time I saw it, I broke down in tears , because i've lost/gave back to God
2 blessings much too early.
But still the song ...and the music is so good ...give it a try...
XOX
Kristen , Denmark
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I was unaware of this practice until I checked out this blog site. Although I knew Obama was pro-abortion, I was unaware of his support of this procedure. Thank you. Obama is an antiChrist to be sure.
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